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	Christopher McDaniel wrote at 3:19 PM Nov 09: Deleting ... Drop us a message! We'd love to know what you're thinking.

	Tim Banner wrote at 1:19 AM Nov 07: Deleting ... Guys, Little late but congrats on the Kona coverage. Even listening after the event you really captured the spirit and atmosphere. Well done and keep it up. Cheers, Tim

	Linae Boehme-terrana wrote at 5:01 PM Nov 03: Deleting ... Hey there boys! I'm heading out for my big iron distance race this year, Beach to Battleship. Thanks for all your help. Without your podcast, I would have gone insane during many a long run or long ride. You're the best! Linae

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

How to make money?

Hey everyone From James Bowtell. For those that raise money while training or racing; the listeners best tips for fundraising? Kia Kaha Bevan

Mon at 1:08pm · Log In to Comment

Peter Tinholt

My thoughts after fundraising for Cystic Fibrosis in NZ for the last 2 years:

- set up a personal fundraising web site such as www.fundraiseonline.co.nz

- email everyone you know (colleagues, friends, customers, suppliers - whoe

ver) about what you are doing and why, giving the link to your fundraising web site

- On the web site you can set up a blog which you can update, or alternatively send everyone an email every few weeks / month to update them on training, the fundraisisng etc. I offered people the opportunity to "unsubscribe" just in case they were sick of hearing from me.

- tell your employers about what you are doing and get them on board. Mine have been very supportive.

- write to community groups such as Lions, Rotary etc and tell them about what you are doing, offering to speak to their club etc.

- Organize events (I have set up an annual Quiz evening which is hugely succesful)

- Organize a raffle

- I ran an online auction for sporting memrabilia after having contacted many sport stars and asking for an item (almost everyone I asked said yes)

- Get Press Releases out to local media (I found the weekly community papers were great)

- try to do contra deals. Iwrote to a number of companies such as running shoe companies who supplied me with shoes for a very low nominal amount. I offered to donate the difference between that nominal amount and the retail price to the charity. I was going to buy the shoes anyway so it did not cost me more.

The key with this sort of fundraising is that your first attempt will generally have the biggest bang. In my 1st Ironman for CF race I got a huge amount of support, the second it was much harder. With many the novelty was wearing off a bit.

Also what I have found hugely motivating is to get to know people well who have the disease that I was fundraising for. I have developed a personal bond which makes getting out and training on a rainy windy day much easier.

Hope this helps! If anyone wants to ask any questions, drop me a line. Happy to help!

Kia kaha

Pete

Tue at 1:55am

Fegan

I raised a few thousand £ for Marie Curie Cancer Care for my first IM. Like Pete metions, it was a case of setting up a chairty page and spamming as many people as possible.

You certainly get a great response for your first IM, I

tried to bring the distances home by using local landmarks, swimming the Firth of Forth twice, cycling from Edinburgh to Aberdeen then running a marathon.

Whilst it was great raising funds for charity I also used it as motivation as to not back out when the going got tough. Thankfully that wasn't much of an issue but it was a great insurance policy.

With the advent of Facebook, Twitter and obviously Athlinks you can now keep people up to date with not only your progress but every single training session.

If that fails, then you could sell a kidney or spend the weekend at the local red light district ;~)

Yesterday at 12:19pm

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

Should we get the Navy involved?

Hey everyone Should WTC be using the U.S Navy as one of the sponsors of the World Champs? Kia Kaha Bevan and John

12 days ago · Log In to Comment

Frederick Cook

It's interesting that you guys bring this up now, because about a week ago a bunch of retired US generals published a report that 75% of America's youth are unfit for military service. Some because of poor education or a criminal record, but many ar

e just in too poor of shape physically to be accepted. If I were a recruiter, I could see how the triathlon community would be a great place to look for motivated, dedicated, and physically fit young people.

7 days ago

Jamie McPherson

The WTC are a comercial company, the can take sponsership from who ever they want. If they thought it was harming their buissness they wouldn't do it. I'm not to sure what is in it for the Navy though. I assume they are useing it as a recuiting too

l. But triatlons demographic is mainly people in the 25-45 age range where as the Navy are looking to recuit people 18-23 or so.

7 days ago

Liam McLoughlin

I think it's all right. It's smart business really, I imagine the US Navy has a humongous budget and the majority of the people who follow Ironman are probably the exact type of people that would be interested in the challenges and adventure associat

ed with joining the navy.

I don't think politics really need to come into it. The navy aren't out there promoting war, violence or anything like that. I'm not sure myself but I don't imagine that's even the main reason for joining.

Seems like a good fit in my opinion.

Mon at 7:14pm

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

Richard Kingsford Question

Hey everyone Here's the question Richard Kingsford sent through: Best exercise holiday locations in the world and why? Kia Kaha Bevan & John

18 days ago · Log In to Comment

Jay Waters

This one is a no-brainier - Jeju Island, South Korea! Everythign is great about this place. Weather - warm summers - can be hot and humid so great to acclimatise for the heat! - but nice evenings/mornings - Lots of riding on undulating roads, lo

ts of trails, great swimming on clean beaches. Heaps of spas and saunas (known as Jim-jil Bangs in Korean) which have hot and cold pools, and hot and cold rooms (great for recovery). Close to Japan and China if you want to take a quick break for a couple of days. Best of all - the people are so friendly and kind, and they will treat you really well take great care of you! English is widely spoken, and it is somewhere a bit different to what is familiar for most of us - making it an intriguing and worthwhile interesting place to visit! (Click for the Link ...) and (Click for the Link ...)

17 days ago

Mark Dixon

Anywhere with hills. I live on the east coast of the UK and it's as flat as a pancake. Scotland this summer and Cornwall last year gave me some decent climbs. Also trained in Mexico this year which was bloody hot!

16 days ago

David Rowe

If your name is Bevan then it's probably stepping up onto the stool at the Clinique For Men counter at the local department store to get another gallon of moisturiser. For the rest of us (at least in Europe) it has to be Club La Santa in Lanzarote.

Warm weather, hills, a 50m swimming pool, a running track, gym, food on site and everything else you need for your warm weather training.

P.S. They do have a day-spa on site for those you need to look after their skin...

16 days ago

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Troy Busot (Athlinks) Added a Discussion Topic.

Should Bevan box or race Half Challenge Wanaka - if boxing what should his fight name be?

Question for the week of Oct 26.

25 days ago · Log In to Comment

Graeme McCallum

Train for the Half in Wanaka, enter the boxing and watch a Rocky film before you get into the ring.

Job done.

23 days ago

R.J. Kern

Both, as John would say, don't be a pussy. Boxing probably won't be that hard anyway, 3 or so 3 min rounds is like nothing, 9 mins is a mile and a half run. HTFU. R.J.

22 days ago

B.J. Christenson

Box and go by the name of "Beatdown Bevan"

22 days ago

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John Newsom Added a Journal Entry (Blog).

Thanks to everyone who helped us get to kona

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10/20/2009 · Log In to Comment

Erin Lee (erin337)

Great job on all the Kona podcasts. Hope you decide to do it again next year. I know if must have been a tonne of work but it was much appreciated.

Cheers,

The Total Package :-)

10/21/2009

Tammy Rutledge

Great Kona coverage! Loved the interviews....fun!! Heard the call-out on the final day of coverage...thanks! It prompted a smile a few thousands of miles away. An annual pilgrimage now?! :) Hope so!

"the phantom female"

25 days ago

John Rea

Just want to add my appreciation for the fantastic work you guys did for us all at Kona. You have to do this again - it was inspirational. I'm probably not alone in keeping your episodes back to be a motivation when training - so I've only just caugh

t up. Guys - start a fund for next year - and please give us an alternative to PayPal if we want to donate. I need a nickname !

20 days ago

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John Newsom Added a Gallery.

Kona pics - day 1

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10/7/2009 · Log In to Comment

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John Newsom Added a Calendar Entry.

Kona Bike with Bevan and John

What: Social Event/Party

When: Oct 6 2009 2:00PM

Where:

Kona, Hawaii, USA

Meet Bevan and John by the palms / gatorade tent 2pm Tuesday for a 60-75mins ride on the Queen K (tack on with John afterwards if you want). Coffees of Hawaii will supply post ride refreshments

9/29/2009 · Log In to Comment

Rob Hoult

Hey John, fortunately you put a 75-90 minute ride down for me to do on that day, so I'm coming along for the ride.

Just got back from a Waikaloa-Hawi-Waikaloa ride and a run off the bike. The winds were blowing up in Hawi, yeeha!

9/29/2009

William Jenks

If only I were going to be in Hawaii!

9/29/2009

Pete Hagen

Awesome idea guys. Nice of Coffees of Hawaii to hold the post ride party. Wish I were going to be in Hawaii!!!

9/29/2009

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

What do you want us to do?

Hey everyone Here's your chance to get John and I to do some crazy stuff in Kona. Give us 5 things that you want us to on our Kona trip! Kia Kaha Bevan and John

9/21/2009 · Log In to Comment

Nick Rose

I made a decision 4 years ago to stop playing golf, was playing most days, decent handicap and trying to compete at IM as well, i wanted to break 10 hours ai Germany and the 2 didn't go hand in hand. So I just gave it up, broke ma heart lol!!! So if

I had to give up triathlon I would go back to golf, and to keep fit go back to another sport I played, hockey, team atmosphere and social side almost come close to triathlon. But as Fegan says, physically, it would be hard to find a way to stop watching the CAF guys.

29 days ago

Gerrard "The Terroriser" Smith

Get myself a serious case of depression and put on a lot of pounds.

It took me about 5 years of searching to find the next big thing in my life and now that I've found it I would be completely gutted if I couldn't train for IM. H

aving being injured for 3 months now suck enough, let alone never being able to train again.

But of course in the end I would get over it and start the search again for that next big thing.

29 days ago

Lou Dregely

Hey guys,

If I had to stop triathlons I would cross country ski and snow shoe during winter months, mountain bike during the fall and spring months, and for the summer months do some adventure racing (if that doesn’t count as tr

iathlon).

27 days ago

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

What would happen?

Hey Everyone Kev Brock sent through this weeks discussion: If Felix was to put up a million dollars to the winner of Barcelona, and also paid deep, would the top pros go there or Kona. Kia Kaha Bevan and John

9/14/2009 · Log In to Comment

Fegan

I'm not sure there would be an overnight flood of the 1st tier IM specialists but if the money was put up for a few years then I'd agree with Tom above.

Kona would lose the prestige as the top guys flocked to the big money race a

nd WTC would need to up their game.

I think more interestingly, there would be number of short course guys willing to sacrifice the end of their seasons to have a crack at a big money purse that required no qualification races.

For Kona you need to have been top 10 the previous year or win a slot from a 70.3 of WTC IM. If you could just rock up and have a go, then with its late season time slot and big money then you'd see some very fast times, and not from the big names of Ironman but from the short course guys.

If anything it would make for a far better and less predicatble race.

9/20/2009

Craig Brighouse

Off course the pro's would go where the money is, hence the term professional. If a million dollars was on offer then they would compete for it. Million dollars would also attract TV and media exposure as well so pro's would race there just for expos

ure especially the european athletes.

Remember only 2 people win kona each year and as its the worlds best field its hard to take home winnings so if you had another big payday out there it would improve the odds of a payday.

As they say "If you build it they will come" therefore " If you pay them they will come" also applies.

9/21/2009

David Hill

I think that WTC would have to respond to it in some way. The danger to them is that if Crowie, Macca, Chrissie etc go to Barcelona, it would start to seriously erode the esteem that Kona has.

WTC would have to do something to stop that hap

pening.

If you win at the world champs without those guys there what exactly does it mean?

The world champs (Kona) needs to have the best in the world there otherwise it's just another race.

And who could blame the pro's or wanting a shot at a million. They aren't charities, it's their career.

9/21/2009

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

Tell us how hard core you are!

Hey everyone We want to hear about the craziest training day you have ever had? Go on, tell us how hard core you are ;-) Kia Kaha Bevan and John

9/7/2009 · Log In to Comment

Adam Bardsley

Fegan you forgot to mention that I gave you the PratNav programmed with my home address that allegedly ran out of batteries and then miraculously recharged itself. Wonders of modern science eh? That said fair play in that even after that debacle you

completed the run off the back. You're a bliddy legend son.

For me I reckon a 48hour team treadmill challenge (that you kindly namechecked on the show) finishing 1hour prior to the start of the London Marathon ranks quite highly on the quality training scale. I don't think a total of 42miles at under 10k PB pace in the 48 hours before a marathon is textbook tapering. Huge fitness gains though and I even took out fatboy Ramsay on the Mall ruining his finisher's photo.

9/10/2009

Linae Boehme-terrana

Probably a multi-brick day where I rode 30 miles/ran 30 minutes/rode 30/ran30/rode30/ran30. Definitely a long day.

9/10/2009

Craig Brighouse

In training for the NZ Coast to Coast

One morning I did a 2 hour hilly offroad mountainbike ride over a mountain range immediately followed by a 3 hour rough trail run climbing and returning from a 700 metre summit.

In the aftern

oon I did a 2 hour paddle just to fill in the afternoon.

At 3pm I picked up the kids from school and took them to the playground.

It was the final monkeybar session that really made the difference!

9/14/2009

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Bevan James Eyles Added a Discussion Topic.

The best question ever!

Hey everyone What is the best non swim/bike/run thing you have done to improve your race performance? Kia Kaha Bevan and John

8/31/2009 · Log In to Comment

Desiree Cowie

Pilatus, Yoga and Vit D supplements. Anyone got a good diet to send me....Im ALWAYS hungry, try to eat healthily but eat too much.

9/4/2009

Ryan Barnett

By far the best thing that I have done non swim/bike/run is to make sure to spend some "quality training sessions" with my wife during the big build periods leading up to an Ironman. During training for my first race I was so fatigued that I let the

need for rest, over run my desire for things only married couples should do. I think that pent up frustration caused some strife in terms of a physical relationship, "You can get out and ride your bike for 6 hours but you can't spend 30 minutes riding me?"

Back it up!

Now, no matter how tired, chafed, sore, or hungry I feel, when she gives me those eyes I perform like a true professional, she doesn't mind me leaving the compression socks on if it was a hard running day.

How does this help my training. As long as she is happy, she encourages me to get out there and hammer it. As a result I just qualified for Hawaii at Ironman Louisville finishing 3rd in my Age Group (35-39) with a 9:37:27.

If you are interested here is a link to some pictures and race report from Louisville

(Click for the Link ...)

See you boys in Hawaii

Ryan

9/6/2009

Craig Brighouse

Having kids.

Means I have to plan training sessions and get organised. No more procrastination cause if I miss a workout there isn't another time to get it in later. Kids get up by 9.00 am on weekend so have to get out of the house by 6am t

o ensure get long ride in. I also run alot at night after kids gone to bed. Yep kids definitely make you more focused and balanced- just look at John and Bevin

9/7/2009

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John Newsom Added a Discussion Topic.

How would you survive if you were a pro???

If you had the chance to be a 2nd tier pro athlete what would you do to ensure you made a proper living (financuially)?

8/24/2009 · Log In to Comment

James Bowtell

Athletes first need to understand what they offer. The best way to communicate this is in a story; where are you coming from, where are you going, what brings you to approach a sponsor now and how best can you appeal to the person/business you are me

eting with. Remember: you are selling yourself to a person; corporations are just legal entities.

With a story, you can initiate and have a discussion. Networking, web-reserach, using the phone, walking the streets is vital to understand who you can approach. Start local, before going global. Everyone wants Zoot, Orca, Cervello, but the number of athletes they sponsor is limited and so be realistic.

Then you need to evaluate what you will give your sponsor in return for their support. Assessing what you give, before what you get is really important. It makes you more human, less like a leach.

So what can you give? Your time e.g. corporate speaking, appearing at the corporate gym, offering coaching seminars to encourage triathlon participation and wellness for employees.

Updated on 8/28/2009 11:32:07 PM

8/28/2009

James Bowtell

What do you need?

A website? Approach a local IT Consulting company. You offer the opportunity for the web developers to do something creative, challenging, that shows what the firm can produce, so they can

market themselves to clients. Its costs them nothing, but can be very valuable to you.

Need apparell? Offer sponsor logo placement if they provide your race and training gear. Offer to do local races for local businesses to help promote them, in return for their support.

Need a bike? Offer to support local weekly rides, training seminars at the local bike shop that start and end at the shop. It drives business for them. If they can't extend to a bike, what about wheels? Helmet? Mechanical support?

Need cash money and have someone willing to sponsor you? Structure the contract to align athlete and business objectives. The better your results, bigger their exposure, the more they pay. Success on a bigger stage e.g. bigger regional/national/global stages, leads to more exposure for them and more moo-la/dosh/greenbacks/benjamins for you.

Being a skilled negotiator is important. It requires you prepare (do your p's) and probe in every meeting to sell yourself, understand what you can offer that is of value to the other party and understand what they can give you in return.

Be ready for the knock downs. They will say "No" twenty times before you get a "Yes", so keep trying. Once you get one sponsor on-board, adding to your portfolio becomes easier as people heard like sheep. To land the first and early on, be ready to take much less; adding the first sponsor is valuable to you the athlete and its a risk for the business, so recognize that, lower what you ask for and then build your portfolio of sponsors.

8/28/2009

James Bowtell

To some it all up:

Tell a story. Develop yourself into a product with a great story: be marketable and compelling. Be personal each time you meet with a sponsor.

Do your P's: network, web-research, walk the p

avement, get meetings and start!

Go local, then global. The backyard is easier to get to than crossing the street, town, city, State, country.

Give and take: understand what you offer (give) and what you need/want in return (then take)

Be Rocky. Your gonna get punched and knocked down, before you succeed. Be ready to fail, but learn each time you do

Negotiate. Really understand all that you will give and all that you want; be flexible, try for everything, not just one thing.

Get a coach. Assess what you have in the way of experience in approaching sponsors and what you need to help you be successful

Lastly, volunteer and find ways to give back to your community. It shows your a giver and not just a taker (guys... keep your minds out of the gutter!).

Athletes have other revenue streams that they can develop: modeling, training camps, coaching etc. but that is for another week perhaps?

If your an athlete who is interested in exploring these thoughts with me further, please don't hesitate to contact me through athlinks.

8/28/2009

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How to make money?

Posted Mon at 1:08pm

Hey everyone From James Bowtell. For those that raise money while training or racing; the listeners best tips for fundraising? Kia Kaha Bevan

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